cliff and to work with republicans, he and democrats together, to come up with a solution so that we're not going to hell in a happened bag when it comes to -- handbag when it comes to december 31st at 12:015. it's very different. i don't have a problem with him speaking out on this in michigan and not wisconsin. alisyn: all right. leslie didn't see any conflict there. lars, what's your response to that? >> listen, here's what the president was doing back then. he was doing the same thing he's done for four years: jetting around the country giving speeches and raising money. and the fact is that he was not too busy to go to wisconsin. we all pointed it out at the time. he didn't want to go there, because he didn't think it was to his political advantage. now that he's been reelected -- and, again, i point out with literally hundreds of millions of dollars of union contributions -- the unions own this president, and this president now wants to sound like he's taking their side, and it's crazy. alisyn: leslie -- >> go ahead. alisyn: i just want to bring up one thing in our remaining few s